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Sumerian Flood Story 'predates' Noah's Account

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Sumerian Flood Story 'predates' Noah's Account

Postby Joe » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:17 am

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Gilgamesh/Babylonian Flood account; 3000 BC. Noah's flood; supposedly 1000 or perhaps 500 BC. From http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood2.html.

Another site says that the Epic of Gilgamesh - Sumerian Flood Story was around 2750 - 2500 'BCE'. So they agree that the account is around 3000 BC for the Sumerian texts. http://www.historywiz.com/primarysource ... flood.html

Date of Babylon (wiki, their line)
Available historical resources suggest that Babylon was at first a small town which had sprung up by the beginning of the 3rd millennium BC (Circa 2000 BC).


Date of Sumer (wiki)
Sumer ... was an ancient civilization and historical region in southern Mesopotamia, modern Iraq, during the Chalcolithic and Early Bronze Age. ...the earliest historical records in the region do not go back much further than ca. 2900 BC.


Date of the epic of Gilgamesh
The earliest Sumerian poems are now generally considered to be distinct stories, rather than parts of a single epic.[3]:45 They date from as early as the Third Dynasty of Ur (2150-2000 BC).


Date of Sumerian creation myth
The earliest record of the Sumerian creation and flood is found on a single fragmentary tablet excavated in Nippur, sometimes called the Eridu Genesis. It is written in the Sumerian language and dated to around 1600 BC during the first Babylonian dynasty, where the language of writing and administration was still Sumerian.


Date of Biblical flood according to the Septuagint (Emahiser)
The chronology of the Greek Septuagint translation of the Bible may be more reliable than the Masoretic Text, and according to many (e.g. Adam Rutherford) from that source the date of the flood of Noah may be fixed around 3245 B.C.


Wait ...what, I thought the Bible plagiarized the story. You mean they are distorting the evidence to make it appear faulty... why would 'they' do that ?

Don't get me started on the NT 'plagiarizing' from such dissimilar garbage as the myths of Horus, Mithras, Krishna, Dionysus etc.
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Re: Sumerian Flood Story 'predates' Noah's Account

Postby wmfinck » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:52 am

Genesis 10 wrote: 8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.
10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.


While in Moses' day he chose to call it Shinar, it was also called Sumer, and only later Chaldaea and Babylonia. The Adamic race after the flood first dispersed from there (Genesis 11) and Abraham was called from there (Ur was in Babylonia).

If the early Sumerians and their Assyrian (Akkadian was their language) and Babylonian (Chaldaeans were Arameans) successors did NOT have a similar flood story, then the jews and scoffers would claim that Moses invented one. The existence of such a story amongst the other branches of our race helps to establish the truth of the Biblical flood story, and not discredit it. I touched on this already in my recent Genesis series, and will discuss it at greater length in the weeks to come.

Oh, and just for starters, in Greek mythology the father of Prometheus was Iapetus, a word with no Greek etymology. In the Hebrew Bible the Ionians to whom that story belonged were Japethites. I guess there can't possbily be a connection there.

The Greek flood story we have from the poets, of Deucalion and his sons, is obviously a political myth seeking to unite Dorians and Ionians with ties of blood (in a manner outside of the Bible) for political reasons, even though the myth is contrary to the historical myths and testimonies of the Greeks themselves, that the Dorians were first in Crete and then invaded the Peloponnesos, displacing the Danaans. As can be told from the Peloponnesian War, unity between Dorian and Ionian (Athenian) never happened.

The Koran is a late jew rag, and should never be counted among the Classical literature of our race. It is a disgrace to do so. Only sand-nigger-ass-kissing liberals and jews would try.
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