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learningaboutCI wrote:It has everything to do with the marriage covenant of Israel with Yahweh. Israel (we) had failed, so Yahweh 'divorced' us by dying, and then remarried us. Yahweh won't quit, even when we do. Yahweh does what it takes. Anyway I am myself just learning, as you see.
Here's more confusion on my part: Is our soul and body a part of the other? Why will we be given a new body if the soul is eternal, isn't the body only a vessel? If there is a heaven and a hell then what is the point of the resurrection? Why does God make a new heaven and new Earth just to destroy it again after 1000 years? Will we be in Heaven or on Earth? Only 144,000 will be in Heaven?
Basically, I always thought that Jesus died for us so that we would be saved from hell.
Here is where it doesn't make much sense: Why would Jesus die for our sins and to get salvation if we are already saved through God's promise? Did Jesus die so that we'd have everlasting life on Earth or in Heaven? Without Jesus we wouldn't be able to inherit the kingdom, right? Does that also mean that without Him we would be damned? When Jesus said, "no one comes to the father, but through me." John 14:6, was He saying that we will go to hell if we don't?
If we already had the covenant then what's the use in renewing it? If the Bible says that no one has ever seen God, then isn't that telling us that the previous generations are still dead and waiting for the resurrection? What about the verse that says God is the God of the living and not the dead?
Xile wrote:It would be nice if you could give me a clear answer to these questions, without having to research it myself. I don't know how long it would take for me to understand it all.
Xile wrote:Wow, it turns out that they really didn't teach us anything in Church, lmao. I was just convincing my mom that the people at work who reject God will still be saved and she was shocked and confused. She has been taught well by her pastors and preachers, because she believes that anyone who doesn't accept God will go to hell and if we repent then we will go to heaven, etc. It's a bit odd, now of it is making sense to me.
Gah, I'm trying to understand this all but it's still closed off to me. What about all those verses that talk about God not listening to the prayers of non-believers and how Jesus was talking about a place where people will be punished for eternity?
This is crazy, literally the way I was interpreting the Bible has been twisted, because I got the ideas from the Church! I don't even know what to say...
Xile wrote:Wow, it turns out that they really didn't teach us anything in Church, lmao. I was just convincing my mom that the people at work who reject God will still be saved and she was shocked and confused. She has been taught well by her pastors and preachers, because she believes that anyone who doesn't accept God will go to hell and if we repent then we will go to heaven, etc. It's a bit odd, now of it is making sense to me.
Gah, I'm trying to understand this all but it's still closed off to me. What about all those verses that talk about God not listening to the prayers of non-believers and how Jesus was talking about a place where people will be punished for eternity?
This is crazy, literally the way I was interpreting the Bible has been twisted, because I got the ideas from the Church! I don't even know what to say...
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