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Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

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Re: Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

Postby Xile » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:00 pm

I should probably quote all of you, but I think I'd rather just reply this way. It's awesome that God is opening my eyes (heart?) to the truth, but it also sucks because not only have I been lied to in public schools but in Church, as well. It's so much to take in, I'm not even exaggerating. I'm literally like an adult who just realized that he is still a baby (spiritually). Makes me want to scream at the pastors for not teaching me anything worthwhile. I could have figured out the things that they teach on my own!

Now that I'm following science and history also - I'm seeing the bigger picture. I just can't believe that I was raised around everyone telling me that nonwhites were my brothers and sisters and to love everyone, etc. I remember having a crush on some Hmong girl from 4th - 8th grade and being envious of black people because they were "so cool". I used to listen to gangster rap because I thought that it would make me look cool with the negroes.

I remember begging my dad to buy me those "thug" pants in 4th grade to look more like a negro. Imagine how insane it is that it's the exact opposite of what I thought it was. In 8th grade I asked my White teacher if I could pass for a "White person" in the 50's and she thought that I was joking when she said "Of course!". It's hilarious, actually. All the people who had a problem with me are actually the bad seed and not the other way around. :beer:

P.S What does it mean by everlasting shame. Does that mean people will always be sad in the afterlife (doesn't God wipe away every tear?) or is it more about some social status?
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Re: Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

Postby brucebohn » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:29 pm

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P.S What does it mean by everlasting shame. Does that mean people will always be sad in the afterlife (doesn't God wipe away every tear?) or is it more about some social status?


None shall enter the Kingdom shameless, we have all sinned.
Those whom he has called, already feel the shame, we are
sheep, easily led astray and sin in many ways that we are
not aware of. Watching your hollywood movie, set to 'Gangsta"
rap while eating that tasty ham sandwich, what's the harm?
Joining John Hagee's church to show your support for "God's
chosen" people! It's the Christian thing to do, right?
Or maybe the more serious?
We will all be judged for what we did with the time on this
earth in which we were alloted...
Maybe it is like when you have had way,way too many of these :beer:
and cringe at the stories of your acts or of your behavior in this state
of mind of the night before, in which you remember nothing.....
Nothing to do with social status, unless of course you happen to be
a member in good standing over at "Tuckers, Truth from God ministry
and Finishing School for Elohim Blue bloods" not much study there,
just the fine art of "Halo Buffing"...LOL.. But, that's another subject.
"Do you not know that with those running in a race,while all run,
but one takes the prize? In that manner you run, in order that you shall obtain."
1Cor. 9:24
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Re: Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

Postby Xile » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:05 pm

brucebohn wrote:Quote:
P.S What does it mean by everlasting shame. Does that mean people will always be sad in the afterlife (doesn't God wipe away every tear?) or is it more about some social status?


None shall enter the Kingdom shameless, we have all sinned.
Those whom he has called, already feel the shame, we are
sheep, easily led astray and sin in many ways that we are
not aware of. Watching your hollywood movie, set to 'Gangsta"
rap while eating that tasty ham sandwich, what's the harm?
Joining John Hagee's church to show your support for "God's
chosen" people! It's the Christian thing to do, right?
Or maybe the more serious?
We will all be judged for what we did with the time on this
earth in which we were alloted...
Maybe it is like when you have had way,way too many of these :beer:
and cringe at the stories of your acts or of your behavior in this state
of mind of the night before, in which you remember nothing.....
Nothing to do with social status, unless of course you happen to be
a member in good standing over at "Tuckers, Truth from God ministry
and Finishing School for Elohim Blue bloods" not much study there,
just the fine art of "Halo Buffing"...LOL.. But, that's another subject.


I won't even ask what "Halo Buffing" is. ;)

Doesn't Acts 10 mean we get to eat pork now? :o
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Re: Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

Postby wmfinck » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:14 pm

Why Christ had to die, Law and Grace explained rationally in about 45 minutes:

Yahweh, Marriage & Israel: the law and "grace" explained - Yahweh's Covenant People 02-13-10
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Re: Why Exactly Did Jesus Christ Die For Us?

Postby Nayto » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:31 am

Kentucky wrote:Sometimes it would take several years before I could find any satisfactory answer.


This is very true. I remember asking for quick answer on Stormfront four years ago and I got a very similar response from you as what you're giving in this thread. Admittedly I felt a little indignant, but it was the best advice I could have received.
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