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JoePennsylvania wrote:Bamaman
i think you are on the right track. I know many here brush off the moon as a Yahweh unit of time/date measurement. Im not going to argue over it though if people see it differently them myself.
I think i would use the NEW MOON though as the beginning date after the green barley as the start of abib.
Some use the spring equinox and then the new moon to dertermine the start of abib.
But i def think you are on the right thinking.
i wish it was much clearer and didnt have to be wondered or debated about. but like every thing in this walk toward yawheh much is still hidden and mysterious and unanswered clearly.
Michael wrote:Being a farmer most of my life, both crop and cattle, I think I can say in confidence that following the agricultural cycle is a wild thing. If there is one certain thing about agriculture, it is that it is uncertain,...even with irrigation. Yes, there is heat in the summer, and cold in the winter, but I can say I have experienced everything in between from year to year, and that is from farming in some of the better farming areas in the world. Now put that into perspective in the territories of Canaan and Mesopotamia, where it can be as dry as a bone, then the only thing governing germination dates, and correspondingly seed development dates, is the availability of moisture. No moon is going to do anything to a seed and a germinated plant, if it ain't got water.
Any grain will go to seed earlier, and so have a shorter maturity date, if it does not recieve enough moisture. It is simply the plant's reaction to difficult conditions, to go to seed earlier so that it can at least reproduce itself. If adequate moisture is available, then a full maturity time is reached. However, how can we with accuracy then place exact Feast days to such an uncertain process. I have seen many New Moons pass with no rains...and indeed many autumn and spring times pass with all types of moons...and no rains... No rains equals no crops, no crops certainly equals no development of the barley heads.
So for these reasons, although I agree with you Bamaman that the agricultural calendar may underpin the timing of some of the occasions to be recognised, I think it is certainly not an accurate measurement that allows one to place exact dates on. Thats for sure this is one of those areas that is a hard question.
I also think this is one of those areas that should not cause division amongst our Isrealite brethren. That is, it is not a point that we should use to not fellowship with another Isrealite. It is not that important in the greater scheme of things, and I think this is behind Paul's position, as Bill highlights above. It is more important to me for us to fellowship with our racial brethren to try and save the small remnant of white folk and white civilisation that is left today.
The main point should be that the occasions can be remembered and recognised, and importantly they are remembered by Isrealite men, women, and families that have their Father Yahweh in their hearts, and who follow his Word and Laws, and who know who they themselves are.
PS: Am currently trying to get done planted 2000 acres of winter wheat, and 1100 acres of winter barley, but have been held up by constant rain so that we can't get on the fields....So now too much moisture!
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